The following is a conversation between 4 users about the definition of a baby vs. a fetus, individuality from conception, and comparisons to conditions like dementia.
@TautCockatooRepublican3mos3MO
How is killing babies a “protection”?
I think there’s a disconnect.
@TreatyVictoriaSocialist3mos3MO
A zygote, blastocyst or fetus is not a baby.
There's potential, albeit messy, that a fetus becomes a baby.
A fetus transitions to a baby, therefore a sui generis homo sapien, upon exiting the birth canal.
@Patriot-#1776Constitution3mos3MO
Demonstrably false. From the point of conception, the new life is a baby. He/she is a separate individual than his/her mother. Science.
@fart_smeller683mos3MO
how is it separate if it still lives in and feeds off the birthing person? plus, there's no brain, nothing going on with a fetus. it's basically nothing until much later in the growth process.
@Patriot-#1776Constitution3mos3MO
Alright, "Fart_Smeller68" – let's logically examine your arguments, and discuss some highly disturbing moral implications it brings about. Number 1:
How is it separate if it still lives in and feeds off the birthing person?
First off, I'd like to share something exciting about the English language with you – the great ancient word "mother." It's actually been used for (get this!) thousands of years to describe women, who give birth to babies, because women are the only people who give birth to babies. It's your lucky day – instead of humiliatingRead more
@fart_smeller683mos3MO
also, i would like to mention that people with alzheimer's, dementia, and other things you mentioned are definitely not living off of other people. they're being treated by people who choose to help them and are paid to do so, with machines and medicine. someone pregnant, not by their own decision or desire, is forced to grow a fetus off of their own flesh and blood. they are not the same thing, and comparing a fully-grown human to a barely living fetus is idiotic, honestly, more moronic than using the term "birthing person."
@Patriot-#1776Constitution3mos3MO
Apparently you've either never encountered someone with late-stage dementia or, when you did, you were too busy watching TikTok reels to glance for five seconds (or however long it takes your brain to process obvious information, which, having never met you, I can't with any accuracy estimate) at the sorry person before you. People with dementia need to have their diapers changed, their food cooked and presented to them (not to mention a twice-daily refresher on how to use a fork) and their water glass kept full, and they need to be constantly supervised so they don't wander into the streetsRead more
@fart_smeller683mos3MO
you are pretty embarrassing, jesus christ. i never said we don't live off of other people, but living off of other people and a fetus living off a person's body are not the same things. consumerism and birth are not comparable, jeez louise! you're a little coocoo, y'know, patriot? but I still love you, sweetie pie. you'll be mine forever.
@Patriot-#1776Constitution3mos3MO
Don't worry, feeling embarrassed is totally normal after someone schools you and mops the floor with your argument's bloody carcass. Yes, unborn children living off their mothers and us living off other people are very comparable, and you've provided no evidence they aren't. This entire argument was an emotional unload totally devoid of all logic.