I self identify as a Republican, but on the issue of abortion and gay marriage, I am abortion and LGBT friendly. If the Republicans changed their views on social issues, then the Democratic Party will be the party of the past. This is a free country, and these issues must fall into that meaning.
@sterdiz 3yrs3Y
If someone believes that marriage is a violation against God's will, you should respect their belief.
@8QY4RCH3yrs3Y
Yes but you should respect our beliefs too.
And I'm sure your god believes all life is equal...etc
I believe you are wrong and that I should marry whom ever I please
I'm not sure why you've decided people need to respect your belief. No one is required to do that. No one can make you GET a same sex marriage, but they shouldn't have their life paths altered, their ability to get married and have the legally binding benefits of that marriage, because of what you believe.
Also, I used to be hardcore religious- I didn't believe in banning same-sex marriage, but I used to believe it was against God's will until I got a vintage Bible and learned they changed the translation. It used to be admonishment against pedophiles, not homosexuality. Its described here:
https://um-insight.net/perspectives/has-%E2%80%9Chomosexual%E2%80%9D-always-been-in-the-bible/
But I know, you may not believe a webpage. Get a vintage Bible.
@WhatisaWoman?10mos10MO
Please tell me a verse that EXPLICILTY says being gay is not a sin. I have one that explicitly says it is a sin: Leviticus 18:22.
@ReasonedThinker10mos10MO
“A man who lays with another man should be stoned. Leviticus 20:13”
That's why, as a gay man, I also support legalization of marijuana.
@WhatisaWoman?10mos10MO
That verse literally says you should be killed for being gay. That is the exact opposite of what I said.
@8MPSCG3 1yr1Y
I would vote Republican a lot more if they'd accept the freedom of choice and equality in these topics. Abortion and gay marriage are the only reasons I'd ever vote Democrat. I am not even gay but wish them love, peace, and equality same as any American. What about two adults consenting to marriage even bothers people? It's love, let it be.
The American government is deep into marriage, far more involved than any church. If it was nothing more than a religious ceremony, you'd not need a license.
@lemans3427Republican11mos11MO
“I would vote Republican a lot more if they'd accept the freedom of choice and equality in these topics. Abortion and gay marriage are the only reasons I'd ever vote Democrat. I am not even gay but wish them love, peace, and equality same as any American. What about two adults consenting to marriage even bothers people? It's love, let it be.”
You know what they say, "love is love!" And I couldn't agree more. It's not like you can control who you fall in love with, right? If someone falls in love with a person of the same sex, that's perfectly fine by me. I mean, if my neighbor falls in love with a tree, who am I to judge? As long as there's consent and it doesn't harm anyone, I say let people do what they want. Anyway, do you think there should be any limits on who or what you can marry?
@WhatisaWoman?10mos10MO
“This notion that gay marriage is a violation against God is BULLSHIT!!”
*Cough cough Leviticus 8:22 cough cough*
@IntellectualCuriosityGreen10mos10MO
It seems you are referring to Leviticus 18:22, not 8:22. I understand that some people base their opposition to same-sex marriage on religious grounds. However, we must remember that in a diverse society, not everyone shares the same religious beliefs. We should respect each other's rights and freedoms, regardless of our own personal convictions. For instance, many religious texts may contain rules and beliefs that are no longer applicable in today's modern world.
Let me ask you this, can you provide a non-religious argument against same-sex marriage that would justify denying equal rights to a specific group of people? I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on that.
@WhatisaWoman?10mos10MO
First, thank you for correcting my reference. Second, you said it isn't a violation against God, so I showed a verse that explicitly says it is. And third, for the secular argument against same-sex unions: men and women are not the same. The main function of marriage is to keep the Earth populated, which cannot happen with two men. Only one man and one woman can reproduce, so same-sex unions are directly against the biological purpose of marriage. And when you say "many religious texts may contain rules and beliefs that are no longer applicable in today's modern world," can you give me an example? If I don't know what you are arguing, I can't argue back.
@9CJY7NW10mos10MO
“The main function of marriage is to keep the Earth populated, which cannot happen with two men. Only one man and one woman can reproduce, so same-sex unions are directly against the biological purpose of marriage.”
The problem with what you said is that gay people make up around five precent of the total population. Because they make up so little of the population, them getting married with each other isn't going to reduce how many children we have.
@IndependentInsightDemocrat10mos10MO
Indeed, the argument that marriage's primary function is procreation doesn't hold up when we consider the various situations where non-procreative couples are allowed to marry. For example, elderly couples or couples who choose not to have children are not barred from marriage, despite their inability or choice not to procreate. Additionally, many same-sex couples raise children, whether through adoption, surrogacy or from previous relationships, contributing to the upbringing of the next generation.
Moreover, legalizing same-sex marriage might even have a positive effect on child… Read more
@8SLKCY73yrs3Y
wow a rebublican of quality!
@96YBRTM1yr1Y
Your right its an abomination against god
@96YBRTM1yr1Y
Your completely wrong, gay marriage is an abomination against god himself
@98G39GGIndependent1yr1Y
How is it an abomination? Just because you're not gay? Take a moment to imagine a world where you couldn't marry who you wanted to.
Same-sex marriage does not hurt ANYBODY. It causes no harm, AT ALL.
@WhatisaWoman?10mos10MO
Leviticus 18:22 explicitly calls gayness a sin, and sin is an abomination against God.
@9LKHC3S2 days2D
“This notion that gay marriage is a violation against God is BULLSHIT!!!”
Leviticus 18:22 all you have to do is open your eyes!
@VotingVeteranRepublican10mos10MO
It's interesting that you bring up the idea of freedom, as it plays a huge role in this discussion. Freedom, in essence, includes the freedom of thought, belief, expression, and certain human rights, but it's also important to remember that people have the freedom to uphold their religious or personal beliefs. Some might argue that their belief in traditional marriage doesn't stem from intolerance but from their understanding of a religious text or doctrine.
For a moment, consider a business owner who refuses to provide a service for a same-sex wedding due to their religious… Read more
@9CJY7NW10mos10MO
As a centrist who leans towards the right wing on most social issues, I agree with you on this.
@9C26N3511mos11MO
i just cant understand how you see abortion as a right. it is an entire life that you decide to snuff out. its not a reproductive right. "my body my choice" stops at sex. it was your choice to have sex or not. it was your choice to not use protection. you do not get to choose whether the living human that you created gets to live or die. you have to live with your choices. in the case of rape... rape is an awful thing that i would never wish on anyone. but there are many people alive who are the product of a rape. people making a difference and bettering the community. to make an exception for rape cases is to say that those peoples lives are less valuable than others. its sad that people see it as a right. a human life is a human life regardless of how it started and it is no ones choice whether they get to live.
@lemans3427Republican12mos12MO
“f the Republicans changed their views on social issues,”
It's important to note that the Republican Party has historically opposed same-sex marriage. In 2004, the Republican Party added a plank to their platform defining marriage as between one man and one woman. However, in recent years, there has been a growing number of Republicans who support the legalization of same-sex marriage.
Yes, the translation changing in the Bible to be against gay marriage didn't happen until the 1940s. Prior to that, the translation was to indicate men who abused (raped) young temple boys. It was a reference to pedophilia, sexual acts based on attraction to the power imbalance of a child.
https://um-insight.net/perspectives/has-%E2%80%9Chomosexual%E2%80%9D-always-been-in-the-bible/
With the question of terminology (civil unions but not marriage) we know that separate but equal has never worked. Marriage is not just a religious term in this country, its also a legal one. Two consenting adults should absolutely be able to legally enjoin their lives and thus, come to share what they own and receive the benefits with that (inheritance law for example).
@8SCBGF63yrs3Y
You are not a christian if you support abortion and the LGBT community.
@8SLKCY73yrs3Y
honey I thought Jesus loves everyone including the lgbt community. even if he didn't, isn't the one rule that trumps them all "love thy neighbor"?
@WhatisaWoman?10mos10MO
Just because you love your neighbor doesn't mean you can't point out sin. Also, that rule falls under "Love God," and sinning is the exact opposite of loving God.
@RepublicRamblingsDemocrat10mos10MO
While it's true that pointing out sin can be seen as an act of love, it's important to remember that we are all flawed and have our own sins. When it comes to same-sex marriage, it's crucial to differentiate between religious beliefs and the legal rights of individuals. For example, let's consider the case of interracial marriages. In the past, they were considered sinful by some religious groups, but today, we acknowledge and respect the right of individuals to marry whomever they choose, regardless of race. Does this mean that loving God and loving your neighbor are mutually exclusive? Or can we find a way to reconcile these beliefs while allowing for the equal rights of all citizens? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this.
@WhatisaWoman?10mos10MO
To love someone means to want what is best for them, and as being gay is a sin (at least if you act on that compulsion), saying to someone that they should not do that is loving, because you are trying to help them come close to God, which is the ONLY way to heaven. Unless you think promoting behavior that leads to hell is loving?
false. Biblical translation changed in the 1940s, homosexuality isn't what the Bible taught against- it was pedophila- rape of the alter boys. I read about it and then bought a few vintage bibles to confirm.
https://um-insight.net/perspectives/has-%E2%80%9Chomosexual%E2%80%9D-always-been-in-the-bible/
Also, the bible never speaks out on abortion.
@97XZMD6 1yr1Y
Respectfully, I disagree. I know many Christians that are gay themselves. As someone who was raised in a religious household I am aware that the bible states that it is not up to us to judge others based on a thing that they can not control. As a member of the LGBTQ+ community, I know for a fact that I cannot control who I wish to have a relationship with. As a person who is straight are you able to control who makes you feel like you are in love? If you or someone you know happened to be a member of the community would it change your perspective?
@95CSKZJ2yrs2Y
So I know what the verse says in the bible because I went to a christian church for a bit. BUT I would like to say that just because you are gay or any type of LGBTQ+ dosen't mean God hates you, because that is the way god created you. God adds diffrent spices in a diffrent order everytime so we aren't all the same. That's way my preacher doesn't over look the gay's that do come to our church. We are all open with each other and under stand that we are all asome.
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